A Little venting today.. allowed every Once in Awhile

Uggh.. what a day. Nothing happened really, but I suppose that is why it's been an uggh day. .. Because nothing happened..and I'm waiting for something to happen.

I'm waiting for the ex to do something with the papers he received. Either he's going to agree to the very reasonable terms, get an attorney to tell him how lucky he is I'm not going for more (because I so could), or refuse to sign all together and take it to a judge. Question is, how long do I wait for him to sign the thing or not sign the thing? He could drag it on forever and my attorney didn't quite put a time limit on it. Which reminds me, need to call him tomorrow. I want to be done with this already.

Which brings me to my other thoughts on my mind today. My phone was not ringing which was disappointing. Applied for what looks like a really cool job in the Valley last week and right up my alley. It would make going to a full-time-work-for-someone-else job totally worth it, at least according to it's job description and location (my favorite local mall) It's right along the lines of what I'm going to school for.

And yeah me.. straight A's in school...but no school work this week because Fall quarter doesn't start till October 4th. That just leaves me feeling like I won't be making any progress for three weeks.

Politics are on my mind too. Finally watched Michael Moore's "Capitalism: A Love Story" yesterday. All that I felt, he pretty much expressed in that film. What I don't get is how the rest of the country is so unaware that they are being bought , paid for and manipulated by the wealthy few that control this nation. We are for the big Corps (and Wall Street) by the Big Corps and Wall Street. It amazes me how anyone that votes Republican doesn't see that they are voting against their own best interest. Hello America , we are the 97% yet you vote in the economic best interest of the 1% of the nation. Umm..unless you plan on being some Wall Street goon like those guys or a famous actor /actress or Sports star (and those guys are mostly Democrats anyway! right on!) you will never be in that 1%. Stop kidding yourself and stop kissing rich CEO goons asses by voting for Republicans that want to give THEM .. the ones that need it the LEAST.. the tax breaks. Uggh.. wish there were emoticons on this thing..I'd put a big head slapping one right here! And now, the GOP is being hijacked by the Tea Party. Hey, some of their gripes I get.. but where they lose me is that they seem to worship Glen Beck (uggh puke) , Rush Limbaugh (puke some more) and Sarah Palin (just shoot me). Some of their notions are good.. yes the government needs to stop spending so much money cause they do on a lot of crap.. like bailing out rich people! But, they are wrong on other things.. like that Obama is Hitler or that we need to do away with Health Care Reform. Yes, we should stop cow towing to Wall Street, but no we (meaning the government) need to step in and take care of our own people in regards to health care and the screwed system we live in. And, the people that are speaking to news cameras at your rallies are not helping your cause any.

Yes, the economy is in the toilet. But hey America it took 8 years of shitty Bush and Republican control and maneuvering to get us in this mess.. you can't expect Obama to turn it around with a snap of his fingers. The thought that we can once again shift control of the House and Senate to the obstructionist party of Republicans just makes me want to puke (and since I've done a lot of that up top here I think I'll need a new bucket..LOL). Anyway.. that is what is on my mind at 11:39pm this night.

Now.. I'm going to watch Rizzoli and Isles and then I'm off to bed. For tomorrow I have another day of watching my phone waiting for it to ring.. oh it will ring, but it will most likely be a bill collector seeing as in the divorce I'm left holding the bag of all the ex's shitty decisions and am forced into bankruptcy.. LOL.. If only the caller on the other end was that job I applied for (or any of the other 15 or so applications I sent in).

Hey.. I'm an overall positive person.. just sometimes I need to vent. Tonight was one of those times.

Ah.. and please don't take offense to what I've posted here.. just venting.. I suppose some of my statements may seem blanket, and there may be exceptions to some of those that I blanket in with it..if you know what I mean. Ah , heck.. it's late and I'm talking gibberish.. LOL

I wish I Could Just Forget About it

Someone had said that I should just forget the "BS" referring to the political "BS" that I comment on a lot. It didn't and doesn't come from just one person or individual. Yes, I do make political commentary and link to articles a lot these days. But, I can't just sit back and not comment and not care. Not when that "BS" is causing stress and drama in my life and the lives of others just like me. As a matter of fact, I think that attitude has led us down the path to where we are today.

Complacency has been our problem for quite some time. The "you can't change it so why try" attitude. In the meantime, our country has been taken over by corporate interests and special interest. Just look at what is happening.

Health care reform, while we are closer and taking steps in the right direction, is not really going to be the reform we both need and a lot of us wanted. The majority of us knew what we wanted when we went to the polls and voted for our President over a year ago. He put it out there for us to hear and see. Health Care reform was job number one on his agenda. He laid out precisely what he wanted to accomplish and he quickly lit the fires under the Congress and Senate to accomplish just that. But, somewhere a long the way the majority became confused. But, who can blame them? They had the other side whispering sweet fear mongering rhetoric in their ears telling them that the government wants to kill granny, among many things. Those against health care reform, particularly the insurance industry and special interest, played on Americans' weaknesses; particularly our ignorance to world outside the borders of this country and the ways of Europe and even our neighboring Canada. They played on that ignorance by manipulating, twisting and out right lying about how health care is in other parts of the world. They even tapped into the older generations "fear" of this country suddenly becoming what Russia once was with talk of evil socialism and communism taking over this country. Ad nauseum. Never mind that that generation will soon be living off of "evil socialistic" policies.

It appears that the propaganda worked hook line and sinker as we now have less favorable feelings toward any health care reforms that Obama is, was and has been working to get passed. As a result we are left with a bill that, while taking very small baby steps in what I hope is the right direction, is NOT what we really needed nor voted for when we elected Obama. That is not really Obama's fault at all. Actually he has accomplished far more than any of his predecessors were able to , and he did it in such a short time. Yet, the bill we do get seems to have benefited the same interest we were all voting to put down a few notches and the ones that ultimately have caused a large portion of our problems with health care. The insurance companies are having a field day with this reform. Just look at how their stock has surged in the days following the announcement of a "compromise" of the Senate Bill. I do believe a majority of those in the Senate and the House were truly ready to pass reform that we need, only it wasn't the majority that we needed.
Public option and a medicare buy in was removed. I was all for the mandate, as long as their was a not for profit government option offered on the table. Now there isn't. Instead, we are all going to be forced to pay for private insurance. I've even read that the consumer protections were watered down in the bill in order to reach a "compromise" with those that were obstructing the bill. Republicans completely obstructed because not one would get behind the bill. And yes, there are obstructionist on the Democratic side, hence the "compromise" needed to get the 60 votes. So , yes, some in the Democratic party are also guilty of the same thing I chastise all Republicans about.

So, while we may have taken very small baby steps, it won't be enough. One up side is that we don't have to wait another 10 plus years before we make strides in health care reform again only because I do not think our screwed up system can sustain that much longer the way it is. Perhaps this reform will slow it down a bit. I see one of two things happening. The first, and worst case scenario, is that the system will get far worse before we wake the hell up and REALLY reform it and take it out of the hands of special interest whose only interest is lining their pockets. Or, this reform could further illuminate how right the left is about issues on the health care issue and loosen up the resistance to making the REAL and necessary changes we need to have going forward.

To my mom and all those that have told me "well you can't change it so why get youself upset".. yes, you are right. Alone, I can't change it. However, if everyone has that attitude we are only going further into the abyss and turning our country over to those that WILL change it but NOT for the better of the people, but rather the better of their pockets. So, what does that mean for me in the next four years.

Everyone wants to crucify this President for our problems, but let's face it. The last time we had a democrat in office we had a surplus, we were at a time of peace. We get Republicans at the helm and what do we have. Well, we've had tax breaks for teh wealthiest of Americans, without cutting government spending. Instead we've increased government spending with not one but two wars (one justified, the other only justified by what are now known as lies). We've had the government turn a blind eye to banks running amok, all int he name of "deregulation" and "smaller government" only to have those same banks screw the people in about three different ways.

So, to people who tell me to not worry about the " BS" and just focus on my family, man, I wish I could. But not having paid attention has caused me so many problems that it's making my life difficult and unable to enjoy my family. Why? Thanks to the recession our income has been cut by at least 50%, we've had to sell our house short or risk loosing it to foreclosure, I've lost my insurance due tot he inability to pay the ridiculous premiums and have ended up lapsing in coverage only to now fall under the infamous pre-existing condition clause which is basically trapping me in uninsured status for well over a year now. When I went to find a job in order to get medical coverage, can't find one because no one is hiring (as a matter of fact, they are all downsizing). Not to mention, all the above forced me to use some credit cards to get by now and then only to have my interest rates jacked up to nearly 30% (when I was about to lose my house) despite having paid MORE than the minimum balance AND on time during that time period. In the end I've been victimized by the banking industry, the crappy market all around, the insurance industry and the Credit Card industry. I can no longer sit back and take it up the ass from big business and corporate interest. We've become a corporate fascist nation and that trend needs to be reversed in a big way. I'm all for getting myself out of my messes, but it's impossible when you've got big industry and the laws that protect and award them at everyone else's expense.

I will, at least, try to forget my problems for the next week and try to enjoy the holidays with my family and my son. But , rest assured that on Jan 2 I will be back in full force trying to voice my opinions and be heard so that my life and those of people like me can improve and we can all once again enjoy our families without the economic stress of life.

Breaking Down the Lies of the Right Wing Line by Line in the HC Bill

Okay everyone. Some that know me know how passionate I am about Health Care Reform. You also know that I am so because I am currently uninsured and trapped in an uninsurance cycle due to a pre-existing condition (Type I Diabetes).

For the first time in a very long time, REAL reform is on the horizon. We are closer than we have ever been. It stands a really good chance. It's no wonder the opposition is coming out so aggressively and , well with such desperation, against the Health Care Reform Bill that is currently being put through. What upsets me is NOT that they are asking questions about the bill, not that they are challenging the authority of it, so to speak. BUT.. what they are doing is preying on the vulnerabilities of the American public. The public they KNOW will not actually READ the bill, so what they SAY it says will be taken as .. well gospel , to those that follow them on the TV, in News and on the Radio. They know that they'll toss around words like "rationed" care and "government control"' and socialism and each and every one of you will gasp in horror and believe every word they are saying of it.

I can't take it anymore.. the lies, the mistruths. They are so blatant, so obvious to anyone who has actually taken the time to READ it.. even SKIM it. It's SO obvious. Please, don't get me wrong. It isn't only the "stupid" people that are falling in line with the Right wing lies. Very intelligent people.. people I know to be intelligent people are just eating it up hook line and sinker! These people are not, in general, ignorant. That is what makes me so damned sad about the entire thing.

So, the other day on city-data.com/forum, on the Politics and Other Controversy forum that I participate in, I saw a post by a person that, ironically enough, encouraged people and urged people on the importance of reading the bill because of the "horrors" that were in it. He or She proceeded to put down the comments made by Peter Fleckstein who claimed to have gone through the Obama Plan line by line. He/She gave the page and in some cases the section and line along with the "explanation" given by this Peter Fleckstein on what it says. Well, I couldn't resist. I knew that once I saw it, I had to see if what Mr. Fleckstein was actually saying was actually there in the bill. It immediately became apparent to me that the poster, the one urging everyone to read it for themselves, didn't even bother to read it for themselves and were just regurgitating what Fleckstein had said. Let me tell you, the outright blatant falsehoods in his statements were glaring. I can not believe that people like this actually get on the radio and are allowed to do such damage with their lies. I know, freedom of speech and I'm all for that. I don't know how these people sleep at night knowing that they are causing such damage with their lies.

What I've done, in this very long blog, is put the comments Fleckstein made about that page and section (which are reference for you to read for yourself) and then what it ACTUALLY says, opposed to what Fleckstein claims it says. And again. I encourage you to actually read it yourself. In some cases I actually cut and paste that section for you to read right here in the blog. It's long, but it is well worth the read.

You have to ask yourself, if they are lying about this (those trusted right wing people you listen to, or don't ) then what the hell us do they lie to you about. I didn't take the Presidents word for it either. I READ it and saw for myself. It's astonishing.

Enjoy it and leave your comments or questions for me. I'd be happy to answer them.

Pg 22 of the Bill MANDATES the Govt will audit books of ALL EMPLOYERS that self insure!!

Page 22 talks about a government STUDY on different forms of health care coverage. .. Particularly Large group insured and self insured employer based health markets.

The study is meant to learn and illustrate the difference between them and the risks faced by the self insured being able to pay obligations or otherwise becoming financially insolvent. Etc. NOWHERE on that page does it talk about auditing self insured businesses books.

Pg 30 Sec 123 of bill - THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benefits you receive.

This talks about a government ADVISORY committee for both private and public options to RECOMMEND covered benefits and essential , enhanced and Premium (in other words, to advise what level certain things falls under etc.. ) all of which is meant to establish MINIMUM standers of insurance/care. It also goes on to further illustrate who makes up such a panel. It is a well rounded panel consisting of physicians and health care professionals.. It consists of 9 members who are not federal employees who are appointed by the President, 9 members who are not federal employees and who will be appointed by the Comptroller General similar to the manner in which he /she appoints members to the Medicare Payment Advisory committee and "such even number of members not to exceed 8 who are federal employees and officers , as the President may appoint.

Pg 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill - YOUR HEALTHCARE IS RATIONED.

Rationed? NO. .this sets a STANDARD of CARE for the ESSENTIAL BENEFITS Package as defined in another section.. in other words.. a level of insurance that is the MINIMUM acceptable to be considered GOOD coverage and NOT under insurance. As a matter of fact.. here is a line from the previous page under that section

10 does not impose any annual or lifetime limit
11 on the coverage of covered health care items and
12 services;

The subsequent sections also talk about what insurance has to cover MINIMALLY.. and INCLUDES maternity.. WHICH .. BTW. Is not ALWAYS covered under every plan available NOW!

It limits cost sharing.. in other words.. out of pocket expenses for the insured individual so as not to be exorbitant and therefore overly expensive making insurance at the MINIMUM level much more expensive BEYOND the monthly premiums for the insured.

And.. those lines he was referring to.. talk about MAXIMUMS that cost sharing.. ie: money out of the insureds pocket CAN NOT EXCEED.. NOWHERE in there does it mention ANYTHING about rationing care!!!

Pg 42 of HC Bill - The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your Health care Benefits for you. You have no choice in the decision.

WOW.. they really know how to twist things don’t they?

The job of the commissioner, as laid out in the bill is to make sure that INSURANCE PLANS THAT ARE OUT THERE AND OFFERED ON THE EXCHANGE MEET THE MINIMUM STANDARD SET FORTH AND AS MENTIONED ABOVE.

Again.. this is in response to plans that basically offer NOTHING.. THIS is so that ALL OF US who purchase insurance can be CONFIDENT that there is a MINIMUM STANDARD with things SET OUT that we KNOW will be covered at the very BASIC standard level!!!

He is also in charge of setting up the exchange of plans.. in other words.. all those submitted into the exchange comply with the law in regards to cost sharing/ standards/etc.

PG 50 Section 152 in HC bill - Healthcare will be provided to ALL non US citizens, illegal or otherwise.

NO.. it says that INSURANCE on the exchange can not be denied for discriminatory reasons.. in other words an illegal immigrant CAN purchase insurance. NOWHERE in there does it even USE the words illegal and immigrant. It is talking about the ability to obtain insurance.. NOT about the ability to obtain health care.

Pg 58 - Govt will have real-time access to individual finances & a National ID Healthcard will be issued.

Here is the text he is referring to cut and pasted from the bill itself:

6 enable the real-time (or near real6
time) determination of an individual’s financial
7 responsibility at the point of service and, to the
8 extent possible, prior to service, including
9 whether the individual is eligible for a specific
10 service with a specific physician at a specific fa11
cility, which may include utilization of a ma12
chine-readable health plan beneficiary identi13
fication card;

Nowhere in there does it say ANYTHING About a National health Care CARD.. ONLY a BENEFITS CARD..which is basically your insurance ID card and talks about REAL TIME availability of information right there about what you are covered for and what your charges are. It cuts down on the paperwork.. and mistakes.

Pg 59 HC Bill lines 21-24 Govt will have direct access to your bank accounts for direct funds transfers.

NO.. it talks about standardized electronic Administrative Transactions.. in other words the Dr.s office and/or insurance company will automatically deduct your copay from your card. It is basically referring to a standards across private and public options of being able to receive payments at point of transaction.

BTW.. the DR. is the one who collects the copays NOT the insurance company be it a private or public company. AND. FYI .. most likely any insurance company ALREADY knows your bank account numbers etc… because it is there whenever you pay your bill, with a check, debit or visa /MC debit card!!

PG 65 Sec 164 is a payoff subsidized plan for retirees and their families in Unions & community orgs (ACORN).

Here is the actual text;
19 to provide reim19
bursement to assist participating employment-based
20 plans with the cost of providing health benefits to
21 retirees and to eligible spouses, surviving spouses
22 and dependents of such retirees.
23 (

Huh? Acorn.. so Acorn is the only employer, employee group out there that provides insurance to retirees?? Yeah.. okay.. not one mention of ACORN in there AT ALL.

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g 72 Lines 8-14 Govt is creating a Healthcare Exchange to bring private healthcare plans under Govt control.

No.. it’s setting up the exchange to make sure that plans SOLD to consumers meets the MINIMUM STANDARD of insurance.. Do you know how many people have insurance that is basically WORTHLESS and covers absolutely NOTHING of any substance?? And then that person thinking they were “insured” is actually NOT!! Not really?

It’s basically acting as a HUB of choices for individuals and businesses. AND in order to BE in that “exchange” you MUST meet quality standards set forth by the government. Simple to understand and it makes much sense!!

PG 84 Sec 203 HC bill - Govt mandates ALL benefit packages for private Healthcare plans in the Exchange

No.. once again.. it sets STANDARDS for the different levels.. so that you are getting a Basic if you pay for basic and aren't’ thinking you are paying for Premium when you are not getting the “level” deemed PREMIUM. Or buying basic and finding out certain BASIC things aren't really covered. STANDARS PEOPLE.. it's setting STANDARDS.. !! THAT is ALL.

PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specifics for Benefit Levels of Plans = The Government rations Healt hcare based on cost benefits to government.

Rations.. LOL.. does he know what rationing is?? NO. .it just sets the quality level for each level.. it doesn’t say that each person only gets X amount of dollars allotted to them or x amount of procedures.. Obviously the lame brain who made these comments does not know what they are talking about.. or they are really perverting what it actually says to scare people.. most of whom would not even do what I’m doing now.. actually READ each section. Geez.. it just blows my mind how ridiculous this is.

PG 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill - Govt mandates linguistic appropriation services or translation services for illegal aliens.

Hmm.. there are plenty people here legally for whom English language is not their first language.. Are they not entitled to fully understand their doctors, nurses or the medical forms they are given? We are the “melting pot” of the world are we not? Which means that there are many people that live here legally and otherwise who do not speak fluent English nor would understand more complex language involved in forms and it would be more comfortable reading it in their own language. Says NOTHING about illegal immigrants. Heck there are people here illegally that speak English better than some people who are here legally!! This assertion is just ridiculous and meant to appeal to the right wingers who want to throw out health care reform for their own citizens , who far outnumber illegals, because of their stance on immigration or animosity toward illegals.

Pg 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18 The Govt will use groups like ACORN & Americorps to sign up individuals for Govt Health care plan

What is wrong with this? It talks about these groups REACHING OUT to the most vulnerable of the population.. the ones most likely unable to afford a private plan and teaching them about their OPTION of a public plan AND all those that will be part of the exchange. They are utilizing group/ groups that already have the ability and who are already working in an outreach capacity to reach people that need to be reached in order to pull them from the ranks of the uninsured INTO the ranks of the insured. And remember, the public option plan is not FREE. It's PURCHASED. Only MEDICAID is free.

PG 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill - Medicaid Eligible Individuals will be automatically enrolled in Medicaid.

Yeah.. what’s wrong with this. They haven’t elected to role and they qualify for FREE healthcare under Medicaid because of their income levels. .. which means that they can’t afford any of the private or even the public option in the exchange. Medicaid is FREE!! They do nothing and are enrolled in it automatically!! If they get ill or need to be treated for something.. .they are COVERED!! They would get it anyway because..they are POOR . So .. what is the problem?

pg 124 lines 24-25 No company can sue GOVT on price fixing. No "judicial review" allowed against Govt monopoly

yeah.. so? . basically other insurance companies can’t sue the government because they offer cheaper plans.. .which, btw, is the point of offering a “cheaper” plan.. so that people can afford it.

Hey.. if someone can afford to pay more and is truly afraid of the government.. then they won’t chose the public option and will choose the private. Given how there are many that “fear’ government health care, I’m sure the higher cost private companies will not have any problems attracting buyers for a little more. Plus.. the lower cost government option may actually encourage some price competition within the private sector. How? Well for one they’ll have to forgo corporate excess in order to compete.. in other words.. they won’t be able to pay one executive an excessive salary of 14M… not really a bad thing AT ALL.

It protects the governments ability to actually PROVIDE an alternative affordable option to the public should they chose to

pg 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill - Doctors/ AMA - The Govt will dictate what wage you are allowed to make. (Wage limits).

NO.. .. here it is as written in the bill;

PHYSICIANS.—The Secretary shall provide
2 for the annual participation of physicians under the
3 public health insurance option, for which payment
4 may be made for services furnished during the year,
5 in one of 2 classes:
6 (A) PREFERRED PHYSICIANS.—Those phy7
sicians who agree to accept the payment rate
8 established under section 223 (without regard
9 to cost-sharing) as the payment in full.
10 (B) PARTICIPATING, NON-PREFERRED
11 PHYSICIANS.—Those physicians who agree not
12 to impose charges (in relation to the payment
13 rate described in section 223 for such physi14
cians) that exceed the ratio permitted under
15 section 1848(g)(2)(C) of the Social Security
16 Act.


It talks about Doctors that CHOOSE to Accept the FEES are basically IN the public plan network!!!

How is this any different than a doctor that agrees to accept the “fees” set forth and negotiated by the private insurance companies? It doesn’t dictate by any means a cap on a Dr’s income or any other health care service income.. ONLY the FEES that will be paid for the covered patient under the PUBLIC OPTION Plan! Doctors take more than one plan. It does not say a doctor can only make.. oh $200k a year. Doctors also take many forms of insurance.. including medicaid/medicare and other private insurance. This section does not in any way prevent or limit a Dr. from doing just that.

Pg 145 Line 15-17 An Employers MUST enroll their employees into the public option plan. THEY HAVE NO CHOICE, and neither do the employees.

NO.. it says that an employer MUST provide coverage to its employers AND must do so from one of the insurance companies/plans offered in the Exchange.. again.. the exchange sets up STANDARDS… MINIMUM standards so as to eliminate sub standard insurance and coverage which basically is crap. And it makes sure that employers are offering adequate coverage to their employees AND it states that the employer must AUTOMATICALLY ENROLL employee in the plans that they select from the exchange..

It also states that an employer can not contribute less than a set amount (75% individual / 65% family) meaning that an individual will pay no more than 25% of the premium and a family 35% of the premium.

Yes.. it appears in this section that insurance is MANDATE. but we all knew that.. No surprise. And there is a section that assess fines for those not in compliance with the mandate. I believe for individuals it’s a 2% of income.

I have no problem with mandating of insurance. Car insurance is mandated the same way. You can’t lift pre-existing condition clauses without mandating coverage.

Pg 126 Lines 22-25 Employers MUST pay premiums for every employee, part time employees AND their families as well.

I think this is referencing the wrong page .. no such thing there.

Pg 149 Lines 16-24 ANY Employer with a payroll of $400,000 will have an 8% tax levied on all payroll.

Again.. this is the option if a company does not want to provide insurance.. and yes, it means either buy insurance or pay what amounts to a fine. Mandating of coverage…

pg 150 Lines 9-13 Employers with payroll between $251,000 & 400,000 who does not provide in full, the public option, will have a 6% tax on all payroll levied.

Yes.. they do not have to buy insurance, but because they are smaller they pay a slightly lower fine.. Mandatory insurance coverage.

Pg 167 Lines 18-23 ANY individual who doesn't have acceptable HC coverage according to Govt mandate, will be taxed at 2.5% of their income for healthcare. So, you will have government healthcare coverage, or you will be punished.

No. you don’t have to HAVE the government option or be punished…you have your choices of different options INCLUDING a public one. You are not forced to take the public one or even private. If you chose not to enroll in any plan.. private or public option, you will be assessed a fine of 2.5%. It’s not like they are automatically enrolling you in the government plan and deducting the money or adding the premium to your tax bill.You are simply paying a fine for being uninsured.. and rightfully so. Because if you get ill and sick, who do you think is going to pick up your bill? Tax payers. At least the fines you pay will help alleviate that bill paid by the rest of us should that uninsured person fall ill.

Remember.. those uninsured cost hospitals 37B in unpaid bills a year and the government much more. If people decide they still don’t want coverage, they SHOULD pay a fine to the government who will end up picking up their bill later. Nothing wrong with this. People will decide what is cheaper.. buying insurance or paying the 2.5% fine. Lets say you make $30K a year.. that is $780 dollar you’ll be paying. Maybe a person making that much will elect to pay that cheaper fine than paying for the premiums offered on the exchange (including the government one). OR.. if they qualify for Medicaid they don’t’ have to worry.. they’ll have Medicaid at no cost AND no fine to boot.

Pg 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from individual taxes. (Americans will pay)

Non resident aliens does not mean illegal aliens. However, since illegals don’t really file tax returns anyway I don’t understand what hte objection is..LOL.they NEVER pay taxes.. Illegals are undocumented in all sense of the word.

Pg 195 HC Bill -officers & employees of HC Administration (GOVT) will have total and complete access to ALL your personal financial, bank and investment information.

They basically have access to your tax return (which the government already has) to determine whether you qualify for health exchange subsidies. Um.. the government already has access to all that information.. Who do you think you are submitting your tax returns to? Some privately owned corporation???

PG 203 Line 14-15 HC - "The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax" Yes, it says that.

You need to finish that sentence.. because it then goes on to say for a certain purpose.. under a certain section.. text below

The tax im15
posed under this section shall not be treated as tax
16 imposed by this chapter for purposes of determining
17 the amount of any credit under this chapter or for
18 purposes of section 55.’’.
19 (

Pg 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill Govt will reduce physician services for Medicaid, Seniors, low income, and poor.

No… it talks about FEES Paid to physicians NOT actual services.

Pg 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill - Wages for all doctors will be made the same. Specialists like Brain Surgeons will make the same money a General Practitioner makes.

No.. it talks about under the following categories of service provided the fees will be the same.. NOT over EVERYTHING provided by the specialists.. read the complete section below that that paragraph refers to;

9 ‘‘(5) SERVICE CATEGORIES.—For services fur10
nished on or after January 1, 2009, each of the fol11
lowing categories of physicians’ services (as defined
12 in paragraph (3)) shall be treated as a separate
13 ‘service category’:
14 ‘‘(A) Evaluation and management services
15 that are procedure codes (for services covered
16 under this title) for—
17 ‘‘(i) services in the category des18
ignated Evaluation and Management in the
19 Health Care Common Procedure Coding
20 System (established by the Secretary under
21 subsection (c)(5) as of December 31, 2009,
22 and as subsequently modified by the Sec23
retary); and
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1 ‘‘(ii) preventive services (as defined in
2 section 1861(iii)) for which payment is
3 made under this section.
4 ‘‘(B) All other services not described in
5 subparagraph (A).
6 Service categories established under this paragraph
7 shall apply without regard to the specialty of the
8 physician furnishing the service.’’.

PG 253 Line 10-18 Govt sets value of Doctor's time. Govt. decides value of humans

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It talks about the work and services of the DOCTOR.. NOT the value of the people the Doctor treats.. WOW.. how far the right will stretch!!!

PG 265 Sec 1131Govt mandates & controls productivity for private HC industries.

This pertains to the government in medicare/Medicaid arena.. NOT between private insurance and those companies, doctors etc. The government has every right to do just that…as private industry does just those things when pertaining to quality, cost, etc.

PG 268 Sec 1141 Fed Govt regulates rental & purchase of power driven wheelchairs

Under Medicaid/medicare..no different than a private negotiates with each entity. This is NOT across the board.. this all falls under Medicaid/medicare.

PG 272 SEC. 1145. TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS - Cancer patients - welcome to rationing!

Rationing.. NO.. it talks about determining if some hospitals in the Medicaid/medicare network cost more than others that are just as effective is all. Nothing about limits on who gets what care or rationing.. Again.. a stretch and absurd accusation.

Page 280 Sec 1151 The Govt will penalize hospitals for what Govt deems preventable re-admissions.

Again.. as related to medicare.. NOT as related to anything else other than who they pay for what.. that is the right of Medicaid/medicare.

Pg 298 Lines 9-11 Doctors that treat a patient during initial admission will be penalized.

Under medicare.. in other words, the Dr. that treated is responsible for that treatment. If his work is sloppy.. he’ll get a reduced payment for not doing it right the first time..

Pg 317 L 13-20 PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. Government dictates what Doctors can make and how much they can own.

Ah.. this is talking about when a Dr. under medicare refers a patient to a specific hospital. This is to prevent Dr’s from referring patients to a hospital based on monetary compensation above and beyond their fees by referring them to a hospital in which they have an “ownership” stake. In otherwords, what if a Dr. could have referred the patient to an equally affective hospital that costs medicaid/Medicare less, but that Dr. referred him to a hospital in which he has personal ownership in. He costs Medicaid/Medicare more so that he could profit more. It’s a conflict of interest of sorts.. kind of like a “kickback”. Makes sense. Again.. this is under MEDICARE/Medicaid section and NOT section dealing with the entire medical field.

Pg 317-318 lines 21-25,1-3 PROHIBITION on expansion- Govt mandates hospitals cannot expand without government approval.

Again.. only pertains to hospitals that qualify as providers under Medicaid/Medicare.. NOT across the boards.

Pg335 L 16-25 Pg 336-339 - Govt mandates establishment of outcome based measures. Rationing

It’s going to make sure that patients utilizing services are actually having a good outcome of said service. In other words.. what doesn’t work will be thrown out in favor of what does. Makes sense. And again. . this is all under the Medicaid/medicare section .. NOT the section pertaining to private insurance and public insurance option, exchange etc.

Pg 341 Lines 3-9 Govt has authority to disqualify Medicare Advance Plans, HMOs, etc. Forcing people into the Govt plan.

If the plans do not meet the standards set forth under the criteria that they set up of MINIMUM standards in order to be a medicare/Medicaid provider, than they will not be a medicare/Medicaid provider. NOWHERE in that section does it say anything about then being pushed INTO the public option plan!!! THAT is a BOLD FACED LIE

Pg 354 Sec 1177 - Govt will RESTRICT enrollment of Special needs persons for care. Can euthanasia be far behind for "undesirables"?

It means that someone can not enroll until the open enrollment period.. NOT that they can’t EVER enroll. Read the section.. it's right there and speaks only of ability to enroll during open enrollment periods.

Pg 379 Sec 1191 Govt creates more bureaucracy - Telehealth Advisory Committee. Can you say HC by phone?

It’s an EXPANSION of the telehealth.. meant to help those in RURAL areas.. as the title of that section indicates ; Medicare Rural Access Protections.

PG 425 Lines 4-12 Govt mandates Advance Care Planning Consultation. Euthanasia and Doctor-Assisted Suicide.

Mandates.. NO it provides seniors with counseling on setting up living wills, health care proxies and so on so that they along with their families, are prepared for what may come. It says nothing about killing off old people or Assisted Suicide. It counsels families about PALATIVE care and HOSPICE!!! It counsels on why it’s important to SET YOUR DIRECTIVE of what actions YOU want your family to take FOR YOU in the event you are unable to make decisions for yourself.. like.. do you want to be on life support if that is the only way to sustain your life..etc. Many people are not even aware of what these things are.. do you have ANY idea the turmoil of a family member not knowing what you may or may not want in the event of complete incapacitation has on people.

Pg 425 Lines 17-19 Govt will instruct & consult regarding living wills, and assume power of attorney of all enrollees. Mandatory!

NOWHERE does it say that the State will then make the decision . And if someone hasn’t designated someone to make the decision, then what? Who does if the person can’t. Is it so wrong that if you are enrolled in medicare you have someone to make decision for you should you not be able to so that YOUR OWN WISHES are carried out? It says right there the PERSONS OWN WISHES.. NOT that of the state.

PG 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3 Govt provides approved list of end of life resources, guiding you in death decisions to end your life.

Here it is.. it’s basically just saying that the practitioner will provide a list of resources..RESOURCES!! All of which will help a person make the decisions THEY WANT!!!

An explanation by the practitioner of the
20 continuum of end-of-life services and supports avail21
able, including palliative care and hospice, and bene22
fits for such services and supports that are available
23 under this title.

The government doesn’t mandate anything. It provides you with all your options!!

Pg 429 Lines 1-9 An "advance care planning consultant" will be used frequently as a patient's health deteriorates

PG 429 Lines 10-12 "advance care consultation" may include an ORDER to initiate end of life plans. AN ORDER from GOV to terminate a life.

No. .it talks about what constitutes a legal form of action set out by the patient for what THE PATIENT wants done as far as measures at the end of their life WHEN their health deteriorates.

Here is a line from it:

effectively communicates the individual’s
18 preferences regarding life sustaining treatment, in19
cluding an indication of the treatment and care de20
sired by the individual;

Pg 429 Lines 13-25 - The govt will specify which Doctors can write an end of life order.

is signed and dated by a physician (as de9
fined in subsection (r)(1)) or another health care
10 professional (as specified by the Secretary and who
11 is acting within the scope of the professional’s au12
thority under State law in signing such an order, in13
cluding a nurse practitioner or physician assistant)
14 and is in a form that permits it to stay with the in15
dividual and be followed by health care professionals
16 and providers across the continuum of care

Clearly they are talking about a physician that is well a legal physician.. not just any Joe Schmo on the street people.. LOL Come on..

PG 430 Lines 11-15 The Govt will decide what level of treatment you will have at end of life

NO .. it talks about conditions in which the directive SET FORTH by the patient is carried out! NOT what the Government wants.. but what YOU, the person on medicare, set forth in your health proxy and living will.

Pg 469 - Community Based Home Medical Services=Non profit orgs. Hello, ACORN Medical Services here!!?

ACORN?? Well unless ACORN meets all the medical criteria with their facilities set out in this section than Acorn won’t be doing ANYTHING regarding end of life. You know “community” “not for profit” could also include..oh CATHOLIC HOSPICES too you know!!!

Page 472 Lines 14-17 PAYMENT TO COMMUNITY-BASED ORG. 1 monthly payment to a community-based org.

See my statement above.

PG 489 Sec 1308 The Govt will cover Marriage & Family therapy. Which means government will now be involved in marriage and family decisions.

LOL. No.. it talks about how it will cover marriage counseling and mental health services.. same as it covers any medical condition it covers. Unless you think Senators are going to be sitting in the room telling you what to do?? Are these people aware of what therapy/counseling actually is? Another stretch and false information put forth by the right wingers.. and it’s ridiculous

From the bill:
The term ‘marriage and family therapist
9 services’ means services performed by a marriage and
10 family therapist (as defined in paragraph (2)) for the diag11
nosis and treatment of mental illnesses, which the mar12
riage and family therapist is legally authorized to perform
13 under State law

Pg 494-498 Govt will cover Mental Health Services including defining, creating, rationing those services.

No.. it will provide coverage for mental illness..and just like anything else negotiated fees and approved physicians that comply with medicare/Medicaid standards.. no rationing. There isn’t a set amount of dollars for a set amount of people and no where does it even allude to that in the slightest.

Here's the full Health Care bill that sits in the House.

Do you see now how things get twisted. How the right wants you to think the government is killing off granny, when in actuality it is PROVIDING service TO the family to help them set up all they need to in the event of end of life decisions being made. Can you not see how the right is twising and lying their faces off about this? Doesn't it not upset you that they lied so blatantly and worse yet, the people are buying it hook line and sinker!

Next time you hear something from any commentator.. on the left or on the right, in regards to this bill, go READ that section that it was referring to. LOOK IT UP YOURSELF. You'll be amazed. I was!